Colin Powell's Email To Clinton

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U.S. Department of State Case No. 0-2016-11097 Doc No. C06125520 Date: 09/06/2016

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From: Colin Powell

To: Hillary Clinton [email protected] blackberry. net

Subject: Re: Question

I didn't have a BlackBerry. What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds
ancient.) So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department
servers. I even used it to do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their
personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels.

Now, the real issue had to do with PDAs, as we called them a few years ago before BlackBerry became a noun. And the issue
was DS would not allow them into the secure spaces, especially up your way. When I asked why not they gave me all kinds of
nonsense about how they gave out signals and could be read by spies, etc. Same reason they tried to keep mobile phones out
of the suite. I had numerous meetings with them. We even opened one up for them to try to explain to me why it was more
dangerous than say, a remote control for one of the many tvs in the suite. Or something embedded in my shoe heel. They
never satisfied me and NSA/CIA wouldn't back off. So, we just went about our business and stopped asking. I had an ancient
version of a PDA and used it. In general, the suite was so sealed that it is hard to get signals in or out wirelessly.
However, there is a real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it government and you are using it,
government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law. Reading about the President's BB
rules this morning, it sounds like it won't be as useful as it used to be. Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much
and not using systems that captured the data.

You will find DS driving you crazy if you let them. They had Maddy tied up in knots. I refused to let them live in my house or
build a place on my property. They found an empty garage half a block away. On weekends, I drove my beloved cars around
town without them following me. I promised I would have a phone and not be gone more than an hour or two at Tysons or the
hardware store. They hated it and asked me to sigh a letter relieving them of responsibility if I got whacked while doing that. I
gladly did. Spontaneity was my security. They wanted to have two to three guys follow me around the building all the time. I
said if they were doing their job guarding the place, they didn't need to follow me. I relented and let one guy follow me one

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. 0-2016-11097 Doc No. C06125520 Date: 09/06/2016

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